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Since dusjagr's visit to Taipei in October 2018, we got completely hooked up with those LED-NEON tubes to be used for making simple DIY signs, artworks, installations, workshops and more. Together with the artist duo [https://www.instagram.com/veli_and_amos/ Veli & Amos] we experimented using them for next-gen demonstration banners, solar-powered public mobile billboard-on-a-car and more to come soon... [https://www.thisisnotacommercial.com/ This is not a commercial!]
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File:JamaicaSigns_vanda.jpg
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== General Intro ==
 
== General Intro ==
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[[File:NEON-LED_rawMaterial.jpg|400px]]
 
[[File:NEON-LED_rawMaterial.jpg|400px]]
  
We experimented with various different versions of these LED Neon tubes (search for "Flex LED Neon Light" on [https://www.aliexpress.com aliexpress.com], ordered them from China, which can take 3-5 weeks. There are different versions, most important is the '''Voltage'''! They are sold as 220V, 12V (and 24V). All have their own use, benefits and cons.
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We experimented with various different versions of these LED Neon tubes (search for "Flex LED Neon Light" on [https://www.aliexpress.com aliexpress.com]), ordered them from China, which can take 3-5 weeks. There are different versions, most important is the '''Voltage'''! They are sold as 220V, 12V (and 24V). All have their own use, benefits and cons.
  
We advise to get started with the '''12V tubes''', makes your life easier, less problems with high-voltages, less danger and easy to dim, or control with switches or microcontrollers. And most importantly the 12V tubes can be cut as you want every 2.5 cm.
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We advise to get started with the '''12V tubes''', makes your life easier, less problems with high-voltage, less danger and easy to dim, or control with switches or microcontrollers. And most importantly the 12V tubes can be cut as you want every 2.5 cm.
  
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====''More about 12V tubes''====
  
''Some info about the 220V tubes''
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When ordering the 12V tubes, make sure you get the high-density "120leds/M" versions, for a more uniform NEON-light effect. We found two different versions of tubing, one is kinda whitish tube and the color is only visible when the LEDs is powered on, the other is using coloured tubing and when powered on gives kinda a more smooth light. It depends on your style and design ideas, but generally we preferred the coloured tubing, also it's easier to find the color of choice in a bag full of little pieces of tube!
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'''8mm medium thickness'''
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[[File:aliexpress_screenshot_NEON.png|400px]]
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Our favorite supplier for the coloured tube is [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-2-5-10-20M-Flex-LED-Neon-Light-120leds-M-LED-Neon-Strip-Light-Waterproof/32875053772.html here on aliexpress]. Best to order a few different colors and at least 4 meters each to get started.
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They come in various colours, usually from cold white, warm white, yellow, green, blue, red and pink, somtimes a store might have 1 or 2 more colours available. Another version is "round" tubes, which are not covered in this description, cos they can't be easily glued or mounted to a board.
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'''5mm thin / flexible tubes'''
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[[File:smallFlex_LED-tubes.jpg|400px]]
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There are also slightly thinner LED-NEON tubes that are more flexible and useful for smaller signs, also they are slightly cheaper.
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'''fat all-round tubes'''
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[[File:CheapThinWires.jpg|400px]]
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See this [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32906136083.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d49LcV1 store on aliexpress].
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===== Cutaway showing the LED strip inside the tube =====
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[[File:led_tube_12V_cutaway_top.jpg|400px]] [[File:led_tube_12V_cutaway_bottom.jpg|400px]]
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=====Power Supply / Netzteil 12V=====
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For the 12V tubes you will need a trafo also known as 12V power supply, or "Netzteil", which you might have lying around in your house or you can find them in many many stores. check the rating, it has to be a 12V DC output, and if your sign is getting bigger and bigger, make sure they have enough power, which can be read as "A" for Ampere, or as power something like 30W, 100W. For small signs, the same store sell [https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/AC-To-DC-Switching-Power-Adapter-Supply-DC12V-1A-2A-Charger-Supply-Universal-Switching-For-Led/1555333_32921081230.html this one, 2A], and it comes with a little switch. For larger signs or the whole room lighting best to get 5-10A. It might not come with a Swiss plug... but you can also search on [https://www.ricardo.ch/de/s/LED%20Netzteil%2012v Ricardo.ch] or [https://www.ebay.ch/itm/STECKER-NETZGERAT-Adapter-2A-12V-Trafo-2000-mha-LED-Netzteil/283337651848 ebay.ch] for local suppliers or get it from Conrad or any other local electronics / household store. They start at around 6CHF and go up to 30CHF for more power.
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Nice little power supplies with adjustable Voltage. Small 3A or bigger (with display) 5A.
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[[File:PowerSupply_3-12V_small.jpg|400px]][[File:PowerSupply_3-12V.jpg|240px]]
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For "smaller" signs a USB-step-up converter can also be used. Found on [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32979975471.html AliExpress].
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[[File:USB_12V-8W_adapter.jpg|240px]]
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'''DC plug and socket'''
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As we are making the signs ourselves, we will also need to add a DC socket (female) on the side of the LED sign, to be abe to plug in the DC plug (make) of the power supply or add a battery. Best to go to Pusterla or Conrad with your power supply (Netzteil) and make sure it has the right size and fits tighly. Sadly they come sometimes in weird dimensions. But most of them come with this kinda standard size.
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[[File:NetzTeil_LED.png|400px]][[File:DC_socket.png|280px]]
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'''DC dimmer'''
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12V DC is easy to dim... many units are available on Aliexpress. Some of them work with PWM, or you can adjust the voltage with a DC-DC step down converter.
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[[File:DC-DC-reg.png|200px]][[File:dimmer_LED.png|200px]]
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This really [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1285402231.html cheap one from Aliexpress]
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[[File:Cheap12V-dimmer.jpg|240px]]
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Or this one [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32915462308.html from ali in white or black]
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[[File:dimmerli.jpg|240px]]
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====''Some info about the 220V tubes''====
  
 
They are also useful, if you just want to add a single color tube / line in your room, a wave, a little heart etc, and they can just be plugged into the wall plug. The tubes already come with a little integrated converter and a plug. '''BUT''' they can only be cut every 1m, so they are '''not suitable''' for a LED sign that combines different elements, or if you want to combine different colored tubes in one "painting".
 
They are also useful, if you just want to add a single color tube / line in your room, a wave, a little heart etc, and they can just be plugged into the wall plug. The tubes already come with a little integrated converter and a plug. '''BUT''' they can only be cut every 1m, so they are '''not suitable''' for a LED sign that combines different elements, or if you want to combine different colored tubes in one "painting".
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=== Other tools ===
 
=== Other tools ===
  
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* Side cutter
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* Plier (flat)
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* Super glue (instant glue, Sekundenkleber)
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* Hot-glue
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* Soldering iron and solder wire
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* Strong wire
  
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== How to make them ==
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ALWAYS USE SUPER GLUE!!!
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[[File:HowTo_Painting.jpg|400px]]
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Coming soon...
  
 
== DIY Signs and Workshops ==
 
== DIY Signs and Workshops ==
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=== Extra Session "Bring Light to ZWZ" - MechArtLab @ Bitwäscherei, Early November 2020 ===
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Who is interested?
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Many responded on ZWZ telegram group!
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=== Bring Light to ZWZ - MechArtLab @ Bitwäscherei, 10. Okt 2020 ===
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''' 10. Okt 2020, 14:00 - 19:00'''
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[[File:LED-Neon_workshopFlyer.jpg|400px]]
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Location: [https://mechatronicart.ch/mechartlab/ MechArtLab] @ [https://www.bitwaescherei.ch/ Bitwäscherei], ZWZ - [https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3772977648 Neue Hard 12], 3. Stock, 8005 Zürich
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More info here: [[Workshops#Make_your_own_LED-Neon_Sign_-_10._Okt]]
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[[File:Signs_bitw_bestOf.jpg|400px]]
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=== 2nd Workshop at L200, July 2019 ===
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'''16. July  7:00 PM - 10:00 PM'''
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Also on [https://openki.net/course/3cKczSq8GGJjkBXq4/make-your-own-neonled-sign openki] and [https://www.facebook.com/events/492934368120898/ facebook]
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[[File:GroupNEON_L200.jpg|400px]]
  
 
=== Workshop at L200, April 2019 ===
 
=== Workshop at L200, April 2019 ===
  
[[File:dusjagr_workshopl200_coconut.jpg|800px]]
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Great fun at [https://langstrasse200.ch/ L200 aka Langstrasse 200, Zürich], for the Workshop, many many more people seem to be interested. Let's do it again!
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[[File:dusjagr_workshopl200_coconut.jpg|400px]]
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'''Short Video Docu'''
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{{#widget:YouTube|id=GmmZqKF0p_Q}}
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'''Photo impressions'''
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Here more impressions form the workshop, photos are taken from social media by Panos and Alex. Thanks for joining!
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<gallery mode="packed-hover" widths=300px heights=240px>
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File:56976902_672863833167968_96461241731514368_o.jpg
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File:IMG_20190417_123934.jpg
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File:57194604_672863749834643_7573064702004035584_o.jpg
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File:57221281_672863876501297_7093810999618174976_o.jpg
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File:57511602_672863733167978_4227055874411069440_o.jpg
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File:FB_IMG_1555397866432.jpg
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File:FB_IMG_1555397889122.jpg
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File:LightBulb.jpg
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File:IMG_20190417_123846.jpg
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</gallery>
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=== Workshop in Fablab Zurich, Dec 2019 ===
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https://zurich.fablab.ch/events/neon-led-light-workshop/
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=== Hall of Fame ===
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<gallery mode="packed-hover" widths=300px heights=240px>
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File:blackout_Veli.jpg
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File:Family_signMaking.jpg
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File:GaudiSavesTheWhales.jpg
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File:L200_window_notacommercial.jpg
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File:Neon-LED_Love.jpg
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File:Pimp_your_bar.jpg
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File:Rocket_NightLamp.jpg
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File:X-masTree.jpg
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</gallery>
  
 
== Digital Designs and CNC milling ==
 
== Digital Designs and CNC milling ==
  
 
See on [https://github.com/dusjagr/OpenSourceCoconuts-Neon-Sign github]
 
See on [https://github.com/dusjagr/OpenSourceCoconuts-Neon-Sign github]

Latest revision as of 13:10, 12 October 2020

AllSign mechartlab.jpg

Since dusjagr's visit to Taipei in October 2018, we got completely hooked up with those LED-NEON tubes to be used for making simple DIY signs, artworks, installations, workshops and more. Together with the artist duo Veli & Amos we experimented using them for next-gen demonstration banners, solar-powered public mobile billboard-on-a-car and more to come soon... This is not a commercial!

General Intro

Fish gaudi mini-Signs.jpg

Materials

NEON-LED rawMaterial.jpg

We experimented with various different versions of these LED Neon tubes (search for "Flex LED Neon Light" on aliexpress.com), ordered them from China, which can take 3-5 weeks. There are different versions, most important is the Voltage! They are sold as 220V, 12V (and 24V). All have their own use, benefits and cons.

We advise to get started with the 12V tubes, makes your life easier, less problems with high-voltage, less danger and easy to dim, or control with switches or microcontrollers. And most importantly the 12V tubes can be cut as you want every 2.5 cm.

More about 12V tubes

When ordering the 12V tubes, make sure you get the high-density "120leds/M" versions, for a more uniform NEON-light effect. We found two different versions of tubing, one is kinda whitish tube and the color is only visible when the LEDs is powered on, the other is using coloured tubing and when powered on gives kinda a more smooth light. It depends on your style and design ideas, but generally we preferred the coloured tubing, also it's easier to find the color of choice in a bag full of little pieces of tube!

8mm medium thickness

Aliexpress screenshot NEON.png

Our favorite supplier for the coloured tube is here on aliexpress. Best to order a few different colors and at least 4 meters each to get started.

They come in various colours, usually from cold white, warm white, yellow, green, blue, red and pink, somtimes a store might have 1 or 2 more colours available. Another version is "round" tubes, which are not covered in this description, cos they can't be easily glued or mounted to a board.

5mm thin / flexible tubes

SmallFlex LED-tubes.jpg

There are also slightly thinner LED-NEON tubes that are more flexible and useful for smaller signs, also they are slightly cheaper.

fat all-round tubes

CheapThinWires.jpg

See this store on aliexpress.

Cutaway showing the LED strip inside the tube

Led tube 12V cutaway top.jpg Led tube 12V cutaway bottom.jpg

Power Supply / Netzteil 12V

For the 12V tubes you will need a trafo also known as 12V power supply, or "Netzteil", which you might have lying around in your house or you can find them in many many stores. check the rating, it has to be a 12V DC output, and if your sign is getting bigger and bigger, make sure they have enough power, which can be read as "A" for Ampere, or as power something like 30W, 100W. For small signs, the same store sell this one, 2A, and it comes with a little switch. For larger signs or the whole room lighting best to get 5-10A. It might not come with a Swiss plug... but you can also search on Ricardo.ch or ebay.ch for local suppliers or get it from Conrad or any other local electronics / household store. They start at around 6CHF and go up to 30CHF for more power.

Nice little power supplies with adjustable Voltage. Small 3A or bigger (with display) 5A.

PowerSupply 3-12V small.jpgPowerSupply 3-12V.jpg

For "smaller" signs a USB-step-up converter can also be used. Found on AliExpress.

File:USB 12V-8W adapter.jpg

DC plug and socket

As we are making the signs ourselves, we will also need to add a DC socket (female) on the side of the LED sign, to be abe to plug in the DC plug (make) of the power supply or add a battery. Best to go to Pusterla or Conrad with your power supply (Netzteil) and make sure it has the right size and fits tighly. Sadly they come sometimes in weird dimensions. But most of them come with this kinda standard size.

NetzTeil LED.pngDC socket.png

DC dimmer

12V DC is easy to dim... many units are available on Aliexpress. Some of them work with PWM, or you can adjust the voltage with a DC-DC step down converter.

DC-DC-reg.pngDimmer LED.png

This really cheap one from Aliexpress

Cheap12V-dimmer.jpg

Or this one from ali in white or black

Dimmerli.jpg

Some info about the 220V tubes

They are also useful, if you just want to add a single color tube / line in your room, a wave, a little heart etc, and they can just be plugged into the wall plug. The tubes already come with a little integrated converter and a plug. BUT they can only be cut every 1m, so they are not suitable for a LED sign that combines different elements, or if you want to combine different colored tubes in one "painting".

Other tools

  • Side cutter
  • Plier (flat)
  • Super glue (instant glue, Sekundenkleber)
  • Hot-glue
  • Soldering iron and solder wire
  • Strong wire

How to make them

ALWAYS USE SUPER GLUE!!!

HowTo Painting.jpg

Coming soon...

DIY Signs and Workshops

Extra Session "Bring Light to ZWZ" - MechArtLab @ Bitwäscherei, Early November 2020

Who is interested?

Many responded on ZWZ telegram group!

Bring Light to ZWZ - MechArtLab @ Bitwäscherei, 10. Okt 2020

10. Okt 2020, 14:00 - 19:00

LED-Neon workshopFlyer.jpg

Location: MechArtLab @ Bitwäscherei, ZWZ - Neue Hard 12, 3. Stock, 8005 Zürich

More info here: Workshops#Make_your_own_LED-Neon_Sign_-_10._Okt

Signs bitw bestOf.jpg

2nd Workshop at L200, July 2019

16. July 7:00 PM - 10:00 PM

Also on openki and facebook

GroupNEON L200.jpg

Workshop at L200, April 2019

Great fun at L200 aka Langstrasse 200, Zürich, for the Workshop, many many more people seem to be interested. Let's do it again!

Dusjagr workshopl200 coconut.jpg

Short Video Docu

Photo impressions

Here more impressions form the workshop, photos are taken from social media by Panos and Alex. Thanks for joining!

Workshop in Fablab Zurich, Dec 2019

https://zurich.fablab.ch/events/neon-led-light-workshop/

Hall of Fame

Digital Designs and CNC milling

See on github